Cats of the Clans Wiki talk:Character Art Project

Hawkfire (D) - Redone
Orignal artist, Awesome Hawkcake. Kill me now if it is horrible. Like srsly. I don't like the stripes a lot nor do I like the white transition. And -prays that it matches the warrior image- xP ☘Saint Ice☘  23:52, March 10, 2011 (UTC)
 * This is really pretty Ice :) But, she doesn't really match her warrior image. Try saturating and darkening her more, and add a lot more stripes  ☻Nightfall☻ Follow the brightest star in the sky!

00:02, March 11, 2011 (UTC)

Make this a short-haired blank. Darken the ear pink and smudge the white transition-- Night  shine  00:15, March 11, 2011 (UTC)


 * How, Nightshine? ☘Saint Ice☘  00:16, March 11, 2011 (UTC)

How what?-- Night  shine  00:23, March 11, 2011 (UTC)

How do you change the blank? ☘Saint Ice☘ 00:27, March 11, 2011 (UTC)

Either redo it or layer another blank over it and get rid of the black pixels-- Night  shine  00:37, March 11, 2011 (UTC)


 * May someone do that for me? -utterly clueless- I do not want to re-do her after the work I spent on her. There's no way I'm going to get the shading right again xP

Re-Uploaded I changed the blank for you. You need to make this look like her warrior image because right now it doesn't-- Night  shine  17:42, March 12, 2011 (UTC)

CUTE! Add a lot more stripes, make the shading/saturating more like flame-colored, and make the white chest only go up slightly past the muzzle. Not over her eyes.  HA WK FI RE98  16:42, March 15, 2011 (UTC)

Please work on this or it will be declined-- Night  shine  22:26, March 19, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded: Done. Somjeone change the blank again? xP Chocolate  Frost  22:53, March 19, 2011 (UTC)

You could have used the one I fixed, but I'll do it again. Night shine  23:03, March 19, 2011 (UTC)

Okay I fixed it-- Night  shine  23:12, March 19, 2011 (UTC)

Lighten the white areas, they look too gray. Add shading to the white areas. Make the stripe pattern match her warrior image. Night shine  23:16, March 19, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry Nightshine, I used the one I had saved to my desktop. Chocolate Frost  14:34, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

Firepelt (W) - Redone

 * [[File:Firepelt.warrior.png]]Um...meh. Orignal artist was Satsu, and I think her version is way much better than mine xP. The scars are....horrible. ☘Saint Ice☘  00:06, March 11, 2011 (UTC)
 * Ice he's awesome! Define the scars more, and blur the shading on his chest  ☻Nightfall☻ Follow the brightest star in the sky!

00:07, March 11, 2011 (UTC)


 * What do you mean define? -no vocabulary skills- *dies* XP ☘Saint Ice☘  00:08, March 11, 2011 (UTC)

Define just means they have to be more noticeable. Darken the ear pink and shading. Also add this to your reservations along with Hawkfire's image. -- Night  shine  00:14, March 11, 2011 (UTC)

I can't see the scars.... at all ;P

I would define them, since Echo can't see them, The right eye looks blurred. If its not, i apoligize. and fox I'm only known for the mistakes i've made.... 06:20, March 12, 2011 (UTC) 22:34, March 15, 2011 (UTC)

Echo, maybe your screen isn't bright enough? I can see the scars fine-- Night  shine  23:11, March 15, 2011 (UTC)

Well then make them either lighter or darker, cause I'm on my ipod touch and I still can't see them.

Please work on this or it will be declined Night  shine  22:28, March 19, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded: Chocolate  Frost  23:00, March 19, 2011 (UTC)

Hmmm.... Well, now... Ummm... I dont see anything wrong... Beatiful ;3 and fox I'm only known for the mistakes i've made.... 06:20, March 12, 2011 (UTC) 23:02, March 19, 2011 (UTC)

Blur the shading, it's too dark in some areas. Darken the ear pink, lighten the scars a bit Night  shine  23:02, March 19, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded: Chocolate  Frost  23:08, March 19, 2011 (UTC)

There is some seriously smudged line art by the scars XD  Lyze  We have Nothing to fear, Except fear itself 23:27, March 19, 2011 (UTC)

Ugh, sorry I didn't see that =/ I only did one layer. I'll try to fix it. Chocolate Frost  14:33, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

Stratuscloud - Redone
- I did this awhile ago. Sorry if I don't work on him much. I can't believe you guys started tweakweak without me! D:  Sakura -chan   ♥  03:06, March 11, 2011 (UTC)

Aw, I'm sorry, Echo. Well, you got here just in time :D We literally only started it last night. So as for the image, he's awesome! I might blur the white patches a bit more, and darken the shading  ☻Nightfall☻ Follow the brightest star in the sky! 03:08, March 11, 2011 (UTC)

Yay! ^.^ I'll get to work.  Sakura -chan   ♥  03:11, March 11, 2011 (UTC)

I think the white patches are blurred enough. Just darken the shading like Nightfall said and also darken the left ear pink--- Night  shine  06:14, March 11, 2011 (UTC)

Beautiful, just how I imagined him. <3 Lighten the eyes a bit more, they're supposed to be pale sky-blue.  HA WK FI RE98  16:40, March 15, 2011 (UTC)

Also, the image isn't transparent.  HA WK FI RE98  22:09, March 19, 2011 (UTC)

Please work on this or it will be declined Night  shine  22:28, March 19, 2011 (UTC)

Moonstar (W) - Redone
There, he looks totally aweshume! :D Moon  03:12, March 11, 2011 (UTC)

Wow. This is so good! Blur the ear pink, and add some shading to the white on his chest  ☻Nightfall☻ Follow the brightest star in the sky! 03:15, March 11, 2011 (UTC)

There's blurred lineart on the stomach. ☘Saint Ice☘ 23:56, March 11, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded There, and Ice, there is no blurred line art. It's all an illusion. Moon 03:30, March 12, 2011 (UTC)

Define the patches -- Night  shine  03:35, March 12, 2011 (UTC)

My, isn't he HANDSOME!!! (I would say beautiful, but he's a guy, so... XD) Moon, just blur the shading on his chest. :D  HA WK FI RE98  23:09, March 17, 2011 (UTC)

Please work on this or it will be declined Night  shine  22:29, March 19, 2011 (UTC)

Patch (R) - Tweaked
Comments? Xigbar; The Freeshooter  02:17, March 13, 2011 (UTC)

Looks great! Thicken and darken the shading a bit, define the ear pink-- Night  shine  02:22, March 13, 2011 (UTC)

Forestheart (W) Redone
HERE HE IS!  HA WK FI RE98  01:50, March 16, 2011 (UTC)

Looks great! Blur the ear pink, darken the shading, make the eyes more amber-ish because they look too yellow right now Night  shine  01:52, March 16, 2011 (UTC)


 * Are you SURE about darkening the shading? It would make him look almost black.  HA WK FI RE98  14:10, March 16, 2011 (UTC)

Or you could add/brighten highlights. It just looks pretty flat right now-- Night  shine  22:54, March 16, 2011 (UTC)

Reuploaded Added faint highlights, blurred ear pink, darkened eye color.  HA WK FI RE98  23:00, March 17, 2011 (UTC)

Wow this is beatiful! I would make the pelt a little lighter, or its my screen. and fox I'm only known for the mistakes i've made.... 06:20, March 12, 2011 (UTC) 03:59, March 18, 2011 (UTC)

Really? On my screen, I can see his pelt and stripes and stuff.  HA WK FI RE98  22:08, March 19, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading or lighten the highlights more. It seems flat to me. Night shine  22:26, March 19, 2011 (UTC)

Well, let's see what other people think. It would be difficult to lighten stuff and he's dark enough.  HA WK FI RE98 

Oops, sorry. Now that i look at it, i can see them. Nevermind that all above, he looks good. Lighten the highlights just a tinch more... and fox I'm only known for the mistakes i've made.... 06:20, March 12, 2011 (UTC) 22:59, March 19, 2011 (UTC)

Lizardtail (D) Redone
Finally. Guys I'm so sorry about my two week absence, I have a bone to pick with wireless internet. Anyway, here's Lizardtail :)  ☻Nightfall☻ Follow the brightest star in the sky! 02:10, March 19, 2011 (UTC)

Hawkfire's daddy! <3 Darken the shading just a tad.  HA WK FI RE98  22:07, March 19, 2011 (UTC)

Glow (PH) Redone
My, isn't she lovely? :D  ☻Nightfall☻ Follow the brightest star in the sky! 02:10, March 19, 2011 (UTC)

PERFECTLY PERFECT! Just darken the shading on the very edge of the lineart on her underbelly, legs, under the tail, and chest.  HA WK FI RE98  22:06, March 19, 2011 (UTC)

'''BEAUTIFUL, I say, BEAUTIFUL. '''I would just lighten the shading on her back hind legs. Also what Hawkfire said. and fox I'm only known for the mistakes i've made.... 06:20, March 12, 2011 (UTC) 22:55, March 19, 2011 (UTC)

Graywind (W) Redone
Viola. Comments?  ☻Nightfall☻ Follow the brightest star in the sky! 02:38, March 19, 2011 (UTC)

BEAUTIFULNESSSSSS!!! But a few things: Smudge the stripes and make them look furry. :D And second, smudge and blur the chest. It looks really flat right now. Make it have a furry texture, like the stripes.  HA WK FI RE98  22:05, March 19, 2011 (UTC)

Very beautiful, the shading and highlights make it look like its in a real area, and a real cat, but the blank isn't realistic looking. But, the stripes could be smudged just a bit more :) Chocolate  Frost  23:30, March 19, 2011 (UTC)

Question about blanks
I looked in Cats of the Clans(Book, not wiki -.-) and it says that rougues and loners are the same things, exept rouges create trouble. Should we use the same blank for each? This is a silly question, but i was wondering about this so we wouldn't have to bother about loner blanks being approved anymore. <font face="Segoe Script" color="#15317E">and fox <font face="Papyrus" color="#800517">I'm only known for the mistakes i've made.... 06:20, March 12, 2011 (UTC) 23:16, March 19, 2011 (UTC)

No, we should still have rogues and loner as two different ranks. They aren't the same Night  shine  23:17, March 19, 2011 (UTC)

ALMOSt the same... But perhaps similar blanks? Somebody could edit them a little, we could take the rougue blanks and edit them to look like they're sitting down. AND by the way, who keeps changing the wiki backround? I kinda liked it how it was, but i can deal with it :/ <font face="Segoe Script" color="#15317E">and fox <font face="Papyrus" color="#800517">I'm only known for the mistakes i've made.... 06:20, March 12, 2011 (UTC) 03:30, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

The difference between rogues and loners is that rogues are social, and they find mates and friends and/or cats to bully, and loners just live alone. They usually do not have mates. (HAWKEY)

I don't think that's necessarily true, loners can have families. In the series, examples include Jingo and her group of cats, and that family of cats in the Graystripe manga. I can't remember their names though. Here, an example would be Forest. I wouldn't consider him a rogue, it just sounds weird. Yet he has a mate and a daughter, and lives with them in a den in a secluded spot in the woods. Also, here's a quote from Cats of the Clans (the book) where Rock is explaining the difference to Adderkit. "What's that, Adderkit? You can't figure out the difference between loners and rogues? Let me think how best to explain...Loners are cats who live on their own, not as kittypets, and they don't trouble the Clans. Rogues also live on their own, but they cause problems. That's how the Clans make distinction anyway." (77) Notice the last line, That's how the Clans make distinction anyway. Keep in mind that loners and rogues are just terms for Clans. Rogues and Loners don't refer to themselves with terms like that, they simply think of each other as what they are, cats. They see no reason to go around putting labels on others like that. As answer to Foxclaw's question, I do think since our main focus on this wiki is around the Clans, we differentiate Rogues and Loners, and classify them. So, we should have different blanks for each in my opinion.  ☻Nightfall☻ Follow the brightest star in the sky! 06:04, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

Mouse (PH) - CBA
Comments? Night shine  23:23, March 19, 2011 (UTC)

Beautiful! Lighten her while patches a bit, brighten the highlights just a tad, and she's ready to go! (HAWKEY)

Re-Uploaded did the changes Night  shine  07:09, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

Comments Before Approval?  ☻Nightfall☻ Follow the brightest star in the sky! 19:24, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

Kestrelfeather (W) - Redone
First mottled cat, and I'm proud. I added depth to the eye and a furry texture. I /think/ this is the short-haired blank, dunno xP Comments? Chocolate Frost  23:28, March 19, 2011 (UTC)

Darken the shading, make the ginger and white patches bigger Night  shine  23:30, March 19, 2011 (UTC)


 * I don't think they have to be bigger because they're mottled, not patches. But I'll darken the shading. Chocolate  Frost  23:32, March 19, 2011 (UTC)

Okay then add more mottles, it just looks like specks right now-- Night  shine  23:38, March 19, 2011 (UTC)

I hate to tell you this, but the mottles look like brightly colored sprinkles on a gray cupcake. XD Anyways, try toning the orange down a tad, its too bright. And do everything said above.  HA WK FI RE98  04:16, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

Aw, he's so handsome <3 make the flecks a bit more like patches or dapples, and blur them some  ☻Nightfall☻ Follow the brightest star in the sky! 05:50, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

I agree with Hawkey. The orange is way to bright. I would make the orange a lot darker, and blur it some more. But it's still super awesome :D Snow  Storm  15:15, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

Iceshine (D) - Redone
Which one is better? The first one is more like her warrior image but the second one is more realistic. Comments? Night shine  07:08, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

She's so beautiful! I love both...I think it might be better to do the first one since it's more like her warrior image, but the second was is gorgeous. If you do end up choosing the second one, I would make the flecks brighter  ☻Nightfall☻ Follow the brightest star in the sky! 07:10, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

I'm really fond of the second one, so I'll put that one up. I made the specks brighter-- Night  shine  07:15, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

First of all, what in the world was the first one? Second, um, was this exactly supposed to be re-done? Third, I love it, it's so beautiful. I see nothing wrong /at all/ Chocolate  Frost  14:31, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

Crookedfang (A) - Tweaked
I darkened the stripes a bit and blurred them. I also darkened the shading a bit. Night shine  18:51, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

He's awesome! The only thing I see is his front paw farthest from us, it looks kind of weird; like it was altered. And there's a white part on it that wasn't colored  ☻Nightfall☻ Follow the brightest star in the sky! 20:34, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

Re-Uploaded filled in white area. That's just the way the lineart looks Night  shine  22:41, March 20, 2011 (UTC)

There are some parts where the stripes/shading is awfullly dark, lighten that a lot.  Icy 123   ♥  01:11, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

Like where? I didn't change the shading drastically from its original Night  shine  02:30, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

It's on the haunch, elbow, tail, and some other places.  Icy 123   ♥  11:59, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

Nightshine, the image is wonderful, but, if you edit or fix a blank, could you add it to the gallery? As for the image, I don't see anything wrong. Icy: The stripes are fine.  Pokemon Black and White!   ♥  12:43, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

No, not the stripes, the shading. It's just too dark...Icestorm